On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan

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Main Author: Rivas, Rodrigo Farías
Publication Date: 2024
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Summary: The present article examines contemporary scholarship attempting a theoretical convergence between Lacanian psychoanalysis and Nietzschean philosophy. The main positions, ideas and arguments of this scholarship are assessed. In doing so, the philosophical problem that immediately arises concerns the very possibility of such a theoretical dialogue. The thesis to be developed, then, is that superficial similarities rather obscure core theoretical, and even ontological, disagreements – and so besides the critical examination of the mentioned literature, the goal of the paper is to illuminate these tensions insofar they obstruct easy Nietzsche-Lacan articulations. Thus following the resemblances between both theoretical perspectives, we move from the merely superficial to the stronger similarities among the will to power, unconscious desire and jouissance, then between nihilism and jouissance, and finally between the very logics of resentment and repression. At each step, the article shows similarities to rather be insufficient, to the extent they are sustained on unquestioned assumptions. The paradigmatic one: the idea that Nietzsche is already a Lacanian avant la lettre.
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spelling On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and LacanSobre la posibilidad e imposibilidad de un diálogo teórico entre Nietzsche y LacanSobre a possibilidade e a impossibilidade de um diálogo teórico entre Nietzsche e LacanNietzscheLacanDesireJouissanceNihilismNietzscheLacanDesejoGozoNiilismoThe present article examines contemporary scholarship attempting a theoretical convergence between Lacanian psychoanalysis and Nietzschean philosophy. The main positions, ideas and arguments of this scholarship are assessed. In doing so, the philosophical problem that immediately arises concerns the very possibility of such a theoretical dialogue. The thesis to be developed, then, is that superficial similarities rather obscure core theoretical, and even ontological, disagreements – and so besides the critical examination of the mentioned literature, the goal of the paper is to illuminate these tensions insofar they obstruct easy Nietzsche-Lacan articulations. Thus following the resemblances between both theoretical perspectives, we move from the merely superficial to the stronger similarities among the will to power, unconscious desire and jouissance, then between nihilism and jouissance, and finally between the very logics of resentment and repression. At each step, the article shows similarities to rather be insufficient, to the extent they are sustained on unquestioned assumptions. The paradigmatic one: the idea that Nietzsche is already a Lacanian avant la lettre.El presente artículo examina bibliografía contemporánea que intenta una convergencia teórica entre el psicoanálisis lacaniano y la filosofía nietzscheana. Las posiciones, ideas y argumentos principales de esta bibliografía son evaluadas. Con ello, el problema filosófico que inmediatamente emerge concierne a la posibilidad misma de tal diálogo teórico. La tesis a ser desarrollada, entonces, es que las similitudes superficiales más bien oscurecen desacuerdos teóricos, e incluso ontológicos, fundamentales —de forma que además del examen crítico de la literatura mencionada, la meta de este escrito es iluminar estas tensiones en tanto obstruyen las articulaciones simples entre Nietzsche y Lacan. Siguiendo así los parecidos entre ambas perspectivas teóricas, pasamos de las meramente superficiales a las similitudes más fuertes entre la voluntad de poder, el deseo inconsciente y el goce, luego entre el nihilismo y el goce, y finalmente entre las lógicas mismas del resentimiento y la represión. En cada paso, el artículo muestra que las similitudes son más bien insuficientes, en la medida en que están sostenidas en presupuestos nunca cuestionados. El paradigmático: la idea de que Nietzsche es ya un lacaniano avant la lettre.O artigo examina os estudos contemporâneos na tentativa de uma convergência teórica entre a psicanálise lacaniana e a filosofia nietzschiana. São avaliadas as principais posições, ideias e argumentos desta bolsa. Ao fazê-lo, o problema filosófico que surge imediatamente diz respeito à própria possibilidade de tal diálogo teórico. A tese a ser desenvolvida é que semelhanças superficiais obscurecem divergências teóricas centrais e até mesmo ontológicas. Assim, além do exame crítico da literatura mencionada, o objetivo do artigo é iluminar essas tensões na medida em que elas obstruem as simples articulações entre Nietzsche e Lacan. Seguindo as semelhanças entre ambas as perspectivas teóricas, o artigo passa das semelhanças meramente superficiais para as semelhanças mais fortes entre a vontade de poder, o desejo inconsciente e o gozo, depois entre o niilismo e o gozo e, finalmente, entre as próprias lógicas do ressentimento e da repressão. A cada passo, o artigo mostra que as semelhanças são bastante insuficientes, na medida em que são sustentadas em pressupostos jamais questionados. 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dc.title.none.fl_str_mv On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
Sobre la posibilidad e imposibilidad de un diálogo teórico entre Nietzsche y Lacan
Sobre a possibilidade e a impossibilidade de um diálogo teórico entre Nietzsche e Lacan
title On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
spellingShingle On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
Rivas, Rodrigo Farías
Nietzsche
Lacan
Desire
Jouissance
Nihilism
Nietzsche
Lacan
Desejo
Gozo
Niilismo
title_short On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
title_full On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
title_fullStr On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
title_full_unstemmed On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
title_sort On the Possibility and Impossibility of a Theoretical Dialogue between Nietzsche and Lacan
author Rivas, Rodrigo Farías
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dc.subject.por.fl_str_mv Nietzsche
Lacan
Desire
Jouissance
Nihilism
Nietzsche
Lacan
Desejo
Gozo
Niilismo
topic Nietzsche
Lacan
Desire
Jouissance
Nihilism
Nietzsche
Lacan
Desejo
Gozo
Niilismo
description The present article examines contemporary scholarship attempting a theoretical convergence between Lacanian psychoanalysis and Nietzschean philosophy. The main positions, ideas and arguments of this scholarship are assessed. In doing so, the philosophical problem that immediately arises concerns the very possibility of such a theoretical dialogue. The thesis to be developed, then, is that superficial similarities rather obscure core theoretical, and even ontological, disagreements – and so besides the critical examination of the mentioned literature, the goal of the paper is to illuminate these tensions insofar they obstruct easy Nietzsche-Lacan articulations. Thus following the resemblances between both theoretical perspectives, we move from the merely superficial to the stronger similarities among the will to power, unconscious desire and jouissance, then between nihilism and jouissance, and finally between the very logics of resentment and repression. At each step, the article shows similarities to rather be insufficient, to the extent they are sustained on unquestioned assumptions. The paradigmatic one: the idea that Nietzsche is already a Lacanian avant la lettre.
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